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Yeah. [music]
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Lights up, leaning, feel the truth. [music] Supernova owns the night. Hey. Oh yeah.
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Dubai [music] talking sharp and right. No filters, no ali. Say queen, say
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precise. Oh yeah. Welcome to Supernova.
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Thank [cheering] you. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me. This is not another uh talk show or
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podcast. This is a room, right? So, you should feel comfortable just like home.
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Grab a cup of coffee. Have some fun. You're very authentic as is. Uh we can
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you can introduce yourself what you're doing. So, everybody should know. Amazing. Amazing. Uh first of all, thank
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you for having me. Uh thank you for the team as well. Uh my name is Abd Aziz. I've been in the country in the UAE for
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about 15 16 years. Prior to that I was in Saudi. So I was uh born in Saudi and
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I was raised in Saudi up until university. So you can say I'm uh a GCC
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boy as they call it GCC man. So I've grown my whole life in the GCC. Um I
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know the traditions, I know the culture, I know the people. Um, and yeah, I currently work in real estate. Uh, prior
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to that, I was in management consulting. So, I spent about six, seven years in management consulting.
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And then, yeah, I'm I'm here today and looking forward to it. And, uh, of course, I'm going to say I'm the first
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guest. So, if you see that we're messing up, uh, we're still we can mess up. Uh, it is okay. Uh, if
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we mess up, we are going to stop recording and retake. So, no worries about that. You also have a podcast, right?
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Yes. So, uh, nothing. So, basically, we my co-host and I are are are trying to
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start a podcast. The the idea of it is two really close friends that have grown together uh in
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this region and know each other for about 13 14 years just sitting together
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as we are doing now h discussing modern life from a lens that or from our point
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of view on topics that we know but we don't really talk about or it's like
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when they say you can always see your nose but your mind chooses not to see it. So this is what this is the idea of
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the podcast. We're we'll try to infuse it with humor uh while discussing real
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things that you know people think about but maybe not speak about as such and
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I think my mind chooses not to see the nose just because my mind understand if
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I try to see my nose I look funny right so I look like this. So, um, and I it
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also amazes me. I I had the chance to watch one of your episodes. Uh, it's
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it's fully in Arabic, right? So, we don't understand, man. Like, how about
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all the other people on GCC? You know, like 90% of the country does not really speak Arabic, right? Or 85%.
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That's that's a very good observation. And let me tell you, this is the hardest decision we had to make starting the
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podcast. I know. I I I basically consult with a lot of people around me, people
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that I trust. A lot of people said, "Do it in English. Some people said do it in Arabic because this is who you are." The
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way I'm trying to do it is how I would be with my co-host if we're on the phone
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driving uh in the car. So, exactly. We would speak Arabic, but then infuse it with some English words that
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sometimes, you know, we do, right? So, it's just very natural. We're not trying
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to be artificial. We're not just that's just who we are. But I get it. There's a huge target that would want to
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potentially listen to us but can. But we're trying to figure out a way around it. Maybe shoot a second episode
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discussing the same topic but in English. We're still super early. Uh and we're very excited for the project to be
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honest. Oh, you're doing very well. Uh at the beginning I said that you were also doing a podcast but I didn't mean that
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we're doing a podcast. We're not. So this is not another podcast. Um it's um
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it's a room. So supernova uh is very intentional uh of all the things that we
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don't want to do. Uh one of the things is like you know podcast or um we're not
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trying to manifest success stories or uh loud opinions here. um um you know it
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seems interesting um so um on a scale from one to LinkedIn and I'm using
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LinkedIn because I think this is a very uh it's the outlet of uh demonstrating
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your confidence not you I mean most of the people so on a scale from one to LinkedIn how together are you feeling
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today you can drink coffee we can stop the shooting whatever you like right or you
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can you know we can kill the question as well so right no It's it's a good question. I think the tough questions are really what
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makes a character themselves. I would say if being together and
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LinkedIn is 10, I would say feeling seven. Seven. Just because I woke up
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excited to shoot, so I'm mentally prepared that I need to somehow be together. Yeah. Well, is uh nowadays is
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worth certainly um it goes to cosplay with with confidence. So yeah, it amazes me that
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people are so confident on LinkedIn and then when you uh get the chance to meet the people up close, they're like super
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humble. Maybe they're not so um communicative and I don't know what's
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happening, right? 100%. So I think the persona that's shown on LinkedIn, it's
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very much different than the persona in real life for a lot of people. And it's strange for me, right? Like I've always
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thought I don't have social media, guys. I don't have an Instagram. I don't have a Snapchat. I don't have anything. Uh, and then I look at the people that I
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actually know very close how they are on social media and how they are in real life. It's completely different. It's
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like a different persona that you're trying to portray. I don't know why. Just it never it never really got there.
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You know the why. We have to be honest, right? There's lots of Instagramd advers. So, we need to understand that
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and be honest, right? So, people are constantly very very well connected on their devices. Um but [clears throat] on
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the authentic level they are profoundly disconnected. So 100% and I think you're you're making a wise
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choice of refraining from the uh social media noise. There's lots of noise. Um
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and I really don't see the value. Of course, there are exceptions, bright exceptions uh where social media can uh
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actually uh contribute value to society just like with your podcast or just like
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with what we're trying to do with Supernova. Um at what age did you realize adults are just children with
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calendars and responsibility? That's a very good question. I think uh
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it's around the age of 24
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when I got my first consulting job. As you all know, consulting is a very fast-paced environment and I was 24 and
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I'm like, I just want to go home and I just want to go home and play PlayStation, you know? I just I don't want to attend all these meetings.
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I still want to go home, play PlayStation. So, until now, you're right. like it it started at 24 23 when the first real job
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hit and then I I think it stays with you until until you retire and even when you
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retire you're still and I think PlayStation also stay with you until you retire. So, for example, I
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think I'm going to have grandkids at some point. I'm going to still keep playing PlayStation, and I'm sure that
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my wife will not understand why on earth I'm chasing uh virtual football players
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uh playing a football match, but uh it is a way to steam off for kids like us,
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right? 100%. Um so, when people say he really has it together, what do you think they're
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responding to? Uh
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I would say calmness and the ability not to fold under pressure. I think these
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are the two that at least for me I think people see everyone sees me differently.
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Everyone sees everyone differently. But I think about me I think it's the pressure aspect of it. Uh and I think
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pressure makes diamonds. So I'm trying to be a diamond. It's very difficult. You can see it outside. Um but yeah, I
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think calmness and just pressure. And speaking about uh calmness, uh do you think calmness um gets mistaken for
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certainty or certainty gets mistaken for competence or is it just all very good
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lightning? I think okay certainty
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gets mistaken for calmness and not vice versa. I think your question was calmness for certain I think certainty
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by calmness um if I am calm I don't know if I said that
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right but in my mind if I'm calm that does not mean I'm certain
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you know but most probably if I am certain then could no that doesn't work
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guys I'm sorry it does work this is a supernova map right so it does work and I was thinking
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that most people in Dubai they uh um They seem to be very calm on the outside
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and I know for a fact they are in on the inside. They are like they have 54
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different tabs open on their safari inside. Yeah, it's me. Yeah, that's me at home.
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Me to the point where I have a window full of tabs and then another window full of different tabs for a different
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reason. Yeah. So maybe I'm not calm after all. [laughter] I think you are. Uh by the way and and
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confidence um nowadays is trending very well. Uh self-awareness is not. So which
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one actually can survive the very bad uh quarter
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business quarter? Confidence versus self-awareness. Yes. I think selfawareness
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because selfawareness for me encompasses confidence. If you're self-aware that you're confident, smart, can withstand
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pressure, so on and so forth. I think it's the bigger the bigger bubble that encompasses confidence. So self-awareness for sure. Also, when
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you're self-aware, you know when to fold, when to go ahead, when to pause, when to, you know, choose your moves.
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I think you're right. Uh have you have you ever delivered a sentence with
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absolute confidence uh while internally thinking, well, we'll see.
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100%. I think all of us have. Yeah. And sometimes you come off as imposters. We all have. I think uh I
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know for sure I have the first 10 minutes that we shot together. This is all [laughter] me being an imposter. No,
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I think I think most leadership uh sentences um end with um this um invisible
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question mark. So just this is this is always what I've been thinking. Um and
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speaking of a leadership, what leadership trait looks amazing on stage?
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uh but disastrous in real life. What do you think?
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Okay. From my humble opinion and humble point of view, of course this is not applicable to everyone, but when a
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leader goes out in the quarterly reviews or end of year events and says, "Guys,
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we've done so well. The next year we're going to do better. We're going to do 10% more, 15% more." And then pushing
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everyone to achieve those targets and that reflecting badly on the ground. People feel stressed. people feel
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anxious to deliver and so on and so forth. So that I think translates badly
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on on the ground in most cases at least in in my experience. I think you're right. I also think that
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certainly uh without really listening uh it plays very well but it scales
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terribly. So uh uh it can go really south as we say. Is there a part of your
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work that uh of your everyday business life or your work or your job that uh it
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could ruin the aesthetic if uh it could go public online and everyone would know
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for me for example it is the waiting right so I don't think that you know a leader
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looks very good on the waiting term uh so it ruins it ruins the um the
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narrative and the aesthetic and all the uh leadership people think you're carrying. Uh but then again, you know,
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for me, waiting is uh part of the deal. It's part of your everyday process. Um
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and and waiting is um what also makes you humble and also generates all these
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invisible question marks. So I'm trying to link the dots, connect the dots with everything we have discussed up now. So
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it depends for for someone else might be you know all the difficult meetings or
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the uh for sure there's something that it can ruin the aesthetic of what other
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people externally believes about your job. Okay that's a very good question and
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thank you for explaining your point of view so that helps me explain my point of view. Uh I don't know if I mentioned
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but I worked in corporate strategy in real estate. Um, sometimes
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not knowing about a specific topic or a direction that I think would be
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beneficial to the company or to to any organization that I'm working with is catastrophic, right? Because
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sometimes we don't like sometimes we're clueless uh and people come to us for
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direction. So when I don't have the direction, it's a problem. Uh and a lot
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of times I don't and it's okay to say that we can improvise right 100%. I think how many times we
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improvise with confidence and people take the opinion for granted right and then you wonder and say h maybe
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100% it happens a lot of times especially when you're dealing with a lot of leaders in an organization that have different ways
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of thinking different directions they're very well familiar with the business they're running and you're coming in and
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saying you know your business should be run one two three but they're the experts so it becomes very difficult to
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deal to deal with that aspect Rachel, is there anything more dangerous
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uh than success without context?
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Success without context. I think context to whom, right? If I'm successful today
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and people don't know why I'm successful or what makes me successful, to be fair,
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with all due respect, I I I don't really care about what people think, right? because I'm successful
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because I've done something for myself. I've built myself in a specific way. Um
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maybe that context doesn't show on social media, on LinkedIn, etc. But then deep down the people around me know that
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I'm successful for one, two, three. But there are so many uh successful people on Instagram
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without context, right? and they are I I think most people they come to um Dubai
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already very successful on Instagram and on LinkedIn um and this city which my
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opinion is the best city in the world um has this um talent in exposing people uh
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when the filters stop working um and I'm saying it's it's the most successful city um Because Dubai has successfully
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demonstrated that it can integrate more than 200 nationalities, different cultures, different relig religions and
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work perfectly on a dayto-day basis. And I think social media today um don't do
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justice to Dubai the way they have been um projecting Dubai on social media
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which is all about the good life and fancy cars and fancy restaurants um you
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know beautiful models and there so this is not exactly Dubai where real people
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here families working you're trying to make a statement in your daily life it's
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the competition is fierce Um the the pace is very fast-paced. Um
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and I think you you know coming to Dubai um uses some expectations and you have
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expectations from Dubai itself. At the same time in the city this city has
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expectations from us. Um but again uh you know 50 years ago uh it was the
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beginning how London started integrating uh different cultures and religions but
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also they couldn't really manage crime. Dubai uh managed to demonstrate to the
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world that with zero crime, the safest city in the world uh has managed to
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integrate successfully different nationalities and cultures and religions
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and business, right? So all the way from AI which is my kind of business to real
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estate to consulting um hunting in Dubai has been really it is by far the best uh
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city in the world to be able to manage all of these different things and juggle
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so many different balls while maintaining safety, well-being of its people uh and just general
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quality of life is very difficult. No one has done it. No one has done it.
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No one. It's very little. It sounds impossible. Uh but I think the government has really uh teaching the
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rest of the world how it should be done. Yeah. And what one of the main reasons that supernova uh we shoot supernova in
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Dubai because this is a made in Dubai product, right? So supernova is in Dubai
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because it is very much about Dubai. It is very much about the Dubai mindset, thinking and people um and how they um
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you know the the success story of the city. Uh it is something we discuss
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about uh not not my success story or your success story but the city's success story. Um my my next question
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would be do you think hesitation um
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or let me reframe it is hesitation always fear or is it sometimes the only
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adult in the room? I think it's the it's the latter. It's the early adult in the room I think
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because hesitation is sometimes good to be honest. back. If you want to talk
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about a topic or you're discussing something and you not really sure about it and you hesitate, it's okay to take a
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step back. I think it gives you the time to take a step back, think properly before you go in. So, I don't think it's
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uh it's a negative thing to be honest. Which by the way, it's also pretty
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amazing because this city is not about hesitation. It's about being very bold, full, all in, right? Uh but then again
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um you need to demonstrate your uh maturity uh and and make sure that you
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can handle uh the situation probably in which in your case uh apparently you you
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do um and [applause] it is important that we you know talk
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shows like supernova and podcast like what is the name of the podcast? Oh,
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okay. So, uh the name of the he told me but I don't remember like below above the line beyond the line.
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No. Okay. It's called between lines. Between lines. Yes. Because the way we're thinking about it is that he's a line. I'm not a
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and I am a line. And then the the the context or the discussion happens between these two lines. Between lines. It's it's it's beautiful.
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I'm between airlines because I have to change airlines all the time. uh
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probably you live in between flights and uh and hotels but you know it you know
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it's grounded when you are between lines it sounds solid when you are between your lines uh is you know it's elusive.
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Yeah. I'm going to put you on the spot. Would you be would you give us the honor
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to have you as a guest on our episode? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. When we say you know this city
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guys there is one main reason for the success
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story of the city that we support each other right so it is [applause] important so we compete but at the same
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time we also support if you have a problem I'm going to be here for you and vice versa same for you and for you
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[applause] for you and for you and for you right so and this is how the city grows and um it
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is important that we acknowledge that yeah Um, you need to polish up on the Arabic when you come to the podcast. Actually, let
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me ask you a question right now in Arabic and see if you get it. Okay, let's do it. I'm going to talk in my dialect, which
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is Jordanian, Jordanian uh Levventine or whatever they call it. Uh,
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a difficult question. Um, [laughter] you know,
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be to be very honest, um, not very often. Uh, some sometimes.
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Okay. So, you don't like Dubai very often? That's what you're saying? Well, because this whole show is about Dubai.
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[laughter] Yeah. Not very often, but uh always me too. [laughter]
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Good, good, good, good, good. Nice. That was a super moment. Oh, no.
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Great, great, great. Um, you know, unfortunately, I cannot do the same in
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Greek. uh cuz it's going to be probably the only guy in the room is me and two more people who are going to uh
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understand Greek and I'm not even sure if they're going to understand my Greek. So uh [laughter]
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what kind of tradeoff do leaders accept
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and that never appears uh in their Wikipedia page
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if there is one? if there is one I think
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I don't know if I'm answering the question correctly but I think time I don't know if time appears on Wikipedia
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but sometimes we look at leaders that have achieved one two three and big achievements in their life but nobody
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looks at the tradeoff that they had to make for these achievements and for me the way I see it is that time time is
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such a valuable concept that we tend to trade off for achievements and for us to
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be able to lead. So time for sure, especially time taken away from family, from kids, etc.
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First of all, you said uh you said you're not sure if you're answering the question right. So there's no right or
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wrong. And I think your answer is very much deeply sophisticated.
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um so much in line uh with um with the way I personally think um speaking about
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time uh recently I had an article published of how AI uh which is my line
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of business is going to eventually transform our lives and the concept of
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capitalism will be converted to timeism which means that in the next 5 to 10
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years Um we we should expect that AI will not
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conquer the world in the way people think like you're going to lose your job
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and stuff but I think there's going to be a surplus of time because you know
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people will have uh all the goods in in surplus you know in most of the circumstances
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they won't be needing to actually work um which will and the uh
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the currency as we know it today and will also and the competition. So you
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will be measuring your uh success story and contribution by what you're doing
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with your time and this is the concept of timeism. So
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it is what you can do, what you can create, what you can contribute
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uh for the the best of humanity and what you can do with your time. So time is
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the ultimate concept here. Wow. And I think you're grasping it in a in a
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in a beautiful way. Thank you. Um, so what what's something
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you know now that would have saved you years of unnecessary performance?
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I think stakeholder management I think it's a very consulting answer but
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knowing the right people at the right time and just having a good relationship
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with the people around you. Not that I, you know, thank God I didn't have any
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big issues in my life when it came to that, but the impact of it is very big
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that we don't realize it until we actually need it. Uh, and it's happening with me as we speak. So I'm I'm you know
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uh the relationships that I made throughout the years by just me being me and just trying to be a nice of a person
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and supportive of a person as much as I can are showing the benefits and showing
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the returns. So I think definitely stakeholder management for sure but then again without performance you will not
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be able to perfect stakeholder management because these stakeholders also expect something from you in return
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right uh so yeah I think yeah that's always the case uh funny story uh
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probably 25 years ago when I around 35 years ago when I started working um I
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was not familiar with the term stakeholders so at some point you know a
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guy who was already uh working for 10 years. He said, "All right, Demit, we
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need to see what we're going to do with the stakeholders." Say, "Hey, guys, these are guys who are
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holding stakes. So, are we eating? Are we having dinner or something?" I mean, what are we going to do with the stakeholders? We're just going to eat
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all together, right? He says like, "Yeah, well, not exactly, but uh I can
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see where you're going." So you know funny story you know how how you can
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really be very innocent for sure when you are very young. Um,
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okay. If if leadership had a lot less theater and more honest,
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do you think who actually do you think would feel
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more uncomfortable?
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leaderships themselves because I think to be a seuite executive or an executive
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in a specific company a lot of it is
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you going in with the confidence that you actually know of course you know what you're talking about but a lot of
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it is sometimes confidence that you know what you're talking about you know the targets that you've put you're pushing
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the people around you because people look up to you so if you're lacking that confidence in that lion aspect of your
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character personality, people will not believe you. So, I think
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that's for me like that's that's that's how I see it.
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I think you're you're spot on. Um, you're spot on. Um,
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what's the least glamorous but most important part of staying successful? I
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mean if you consider yourself successful uh what is the the least glamorous part
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um I think hard work like
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some people glorify hard work hard work is but the thing is some people glorify hard work I have been around people that
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say if you're done with work it doesn't matter stay on stay online stay on the laptop until 8 9 p.m. just because. So,
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it's a two-edged sword, right? It's hard work and sometimes it's not. But for me, it's hard work. You see all that
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success, that's all you see. But you don't know the effort and the time that's been put behind it, which is not glamorous.
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Is it hard work versus smart work? I have a I'm I'm a very Okay. So, I'm
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very much biased towards work smart not hard. You love We love biased people. I am very biased towards work smart not
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hard. I get a lot of, you know, lashback when I say this from a lot of people,
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but work smart, not hard because today you could be working 15 hours a day, uh,
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and I could be working eight hours. I'm not saying it's not an example about me, but my eight hours equal your 20 hours.
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So, it's not about how much time you spend on a laptop or on the phone messaging people or talking to people about work. It's about just taking the
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just a smart approach to doing things. And that's not only in work, in life, in balancing your life and in the things we
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do. It's not only work, it's a way of living. The 8020 rule, I am a big big
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big big believer in the 8020 rule for those of you who don't know it. Uh it's that you do 20% of the effort to get 80%
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of the impact of a specific thing. Uh and I'm a huge believer of that and you guys should explore that.
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Um we we believe the same thing. uh I don't believe in hard work anymore. I
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used to be a believer of hard work and then at some point uh you burn out and
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you realize that maybe you didn't achieve all everything you wanted or
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you're not getting uh the desirable outcomes and then you [clears throat] learn to work smarter um and you cut
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corners and you stay focused on the things that matter the most. Yeah. Um and then you get for me for
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example the the least glamorous part of the of of of my performance and my work
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um is saying no while still sounding very kind.
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So how you can reject something and uh say no without
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losing your polish 100%. Uh it is uh probably the least
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glamorous. Uh but yeah, can I tell you a super quick funny story? Um and I think the leaders that
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are watching the show or the people that have impact on other people's lives, if they could just listen and just kind of
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think about it, but uh a story happened with me recently where I was applying the 8020 rule. I was being efficient. I
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was working smart. But then I was told that I'm cutting corners and I always
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take the efficient way to get things done and that's a negative thing. Is it?
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That's what I got. Yeah. Well, I think you can get this kind of reaction from very old school
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guys. So you know people who think that they measure uh you know the time you
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spend in the office, what time you walk in, what time you walk out and they
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believe that performance and uh productivity can be measured under the KPI of time
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spent. Um I know many people who spend hours and hours a day on their laptops
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on their phones uh and different meetings and they have zero results on
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that same this same day. Zero results and even people who are passionate um
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arranging [clears throat] backtoback teams meeting online just make sure that they they sound they seem
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they seem to be busy. Oh, they're working. They're walking fast and they're preparing the laptop and
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stressed and and actually they enter the meeting and they say nothing.
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Yeah, these are the quiet people. They say yeah, let's start. And we all agree we can start the meeting. Good morning. How
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have you been doing all this kind of sub unnecessary or the unnecessary jargon? This is
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something that we also don't use in supernova. We don't use jargon. So I mean if I'm trying to explain to you uh
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what's going to be the what is agentic AI and uh we do multiple AI orchestration nobody cares nobody
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understands I mean why why should we do that and then you know we have people popping into meetings they they super
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jargon or they have these abbreviations with three four five different letters and they expect you to know and if you
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don't know then you should uh feel a bit uncomfortable which is something that
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really I mean I find it ridiculous. You know, people are afraid to be wrong or
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are afraid to say I don't know. It is okay not knowing something. It is okay. We're all human beings. Um and you know
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three years ago we didn't have all the open AIs of this world judge GPS um you
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know and now they you you ask I ask you a question and you take like a couple of
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minutes before you answer be you have to advise your personal GPT and say what
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I'm going to I know people their wives are texting them and they okay
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[clears throat] my wife text me this why do you suggest Hi. And then
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your wife is having a communication with Jubet.
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Doesn't ring a bell here. Nothing. Sounds natural. Um, you know, it's um it
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amazes me how people even on LinkedIn I get guys I get like 400 500 DMs a day
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and they're all the same. Yeah. From different people. They're exact the same. They all start with the same
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thing. Okay. we have been following your success story in Superbbo AI and we are
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so thrilled with all the work you've done. I said, "Guys, everyone is so
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thrilled about this work, right? So, it's fantastic how they sound the same and I'm still, you know, thinking
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profoundly, genuinely thinking, do they think this really works?" Cuz
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guys, it doesn't work. Okay, we just delete the DMs because this is a copy paste thing.
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We don't do that, right? So, you can write something with typos, which is
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okay. Um I know some that some um con con artists they even um engineer a a
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typo on their jp copy and paste just to make it to make make it look uh
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offending. So they are advancing uh their copypaste uh talents here um
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instead of just going a step back and just remember how you used to be a
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couple years ago before the other. So I think you know we are we are the human
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race who actually all of us invented AI and we are using it in the most stupid
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way. Um, it is it is fantastic if you think about it. Um,
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so I need to delete it from my phone. Is that what you're saying? No, I'm saying you should No, you should
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not delete it. You should use it uh wisely. It means that uh you can gather
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information. First of all, the L Chip and Gemini and CL are LLMs. They are
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just large models. These are not specific to you. So they cannot it
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cannot really be tailor made for you. Uh it is uh it retrieves uh data
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uh from all the data sets probably a trillion data set
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for up AI um and he's not a good advisor. So have you tried to uh tell an
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idea to your GPD and instantly GP would say oh this is marvelous idea fantastic
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right so I had the idea of you know opening a coffee shop on the on the dark
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side of the moon [laughter] yeah that's unique it's really innovative yeah you can open a coffee
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shop on the dark side of the moon and say okay so here we go again and then
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you know this is the moment you understand that uh it was trained to behave like that. So you should just uh
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use it wisely, learn more, maybe help you formulate uh your paper or uh if you
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want to polish an email, just make sure you don't have any typos or any grammar,
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which is for me, it is okay to have typos. It is okay to have I remember
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five years ago uh if you had an iPhone we we all had at the end of the
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signature excuse my typos because I'm on an iPhone now nobody is excused about
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typos because we have to speak so uh it's uh it's it's funny if you
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think about it um all right um I'm not sure if you wish if or if you have
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thought of more questions questions or questions that you would like to you
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would like me to ask you, but I don't have any more.
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Oh, I was having fun. I was having fun as well, but uh you know, we can invite questions. We can do
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one more in Arabic. Let's try. Okay. Uh I'm going to maybe throw an English
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word in the start contextualize. This is Let's see if I can work better than JJ.
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Okay. Let's This is This is Deitri versus Jeypity. Yeah. Let me think of a question.
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Um, seven aside, six aside,
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medium rare.
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It's tough. Six aside or seven aside, maybe six.
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Okay. What was the question? I have no idea. [laughter] Uh so I asked you a question. We we
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spoke about it in the morning. We said uh do you like to play football six aside or seven aside?
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Yeah, six is better. Uh because it's tougher. Um uh it's uh I play football. Um
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six is tougher. So you don't get many goals, right? So u both teams they play
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more intense. Uh the defense line is more solid. Um and the
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um no and the um and the field is smaller.
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So also very physical. You can't move or run so fast. So
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someone's going to going to find you when when you're on 77. Maybe you enjoy more cuz the field is larger and then
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there are more goals you can score and uh feel good with yourself everything.
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Uh so I think it's more that's why I play once a week seven and once a week
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six versus six. So just make sure I keep the balance. Okay. But for me uh football has been
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playing a very important part in my life. It keeps me fit although I'm very
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old so it it keeps me fit and also it keeps my mind. Many people think that football's
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only physical. It's not. It is very physical but also I think it's a very um
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intellectual game. So you need strategy to be fast decision making and also you
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need to cooperate. So teammates and if you think around business right um your CFO is your defense line.
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Yeah. And your your chief commercial officer is your um attack and then you have all
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the media like your CTO and your COO and stuff. So that's so nice. I never thought of it this way.
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It is very and you see people people who play defense on they like to
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be on the defense line like like a right back or center back. Usually there also
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the people in in in in business who like to be a little bit
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more um conservative and you know be the defense line of the
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business. This very true because I play center back and I'm very conservative. I'm not a risk taker. I'm I'm the forward uh
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which means that uh I'm not conservative at all. Uh I'm I'm very bold when it
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comes to moves and it you know it really
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depicts the way you think. So you can't really fake your mindset on football. Uh
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so sometimes when you get to know someone it is good to play football with him so you know exactly who the who the
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guy is. I've been using that. So, I know. And sometimes you you ask the guy, "Would
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you like to go up front and play forward?" I said, "No, no, no, no, no. I
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prefer center back like be defensive." [clears throat] And in my mind, it was always the
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opposite. I say, "Who wants to play center?" It's so lovely to be forward even if you
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you know you can score or you can miss but still the adrenaline is there and
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um everybody and at the end of the day it is an team engineering right so
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they you need a support system in order to score a goal nobody scores a
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goal box to box I mean rarely you can find that on football but nobody really
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scores a goal alone in in business goes the same. You you cannot go far just by
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yourself. You need your teammates. So, uh you can go faster, but um if you have teammates,
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you can go longer. Yeah, it's a very nice analogy. It's a very nice analogy between football and
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how it is actually in real life and in businesses. From my experience, yes. So, thank
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thanks uh for coming to Supernova. Happy to be here. For being our first guest. Thank you for having me. and give it
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give it a hand for a isiz. Thank you all. Thank you all. Thank you for having me. We appreciate you. Thank
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you so much.
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